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		<title>By: Steven Windmueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Windmueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome the comments of Rachel, Jonathan, and Richard to my article on a National Jewish Conversation. Indeed, each of them adds important dimensions to what should these conversations consist of and who ought to be included in such dialogues. Rachel offers the notion of &quot;many conversations&quot; both about the spiritual and the intellectual, while Jonathan speaks of &quot;networks of communications&quot; that need to take place at the grass roots level. Richard shares his perception that our traditional organizations need to ask different questions than they are currently posing. He sees, as I do, many innovative institutions already moving beyond the core community, creating alternative models of engagement. Indeed, as he also notes, this is an extraordinary moment to be in the mix as we enter upon a 21st century conversation on American Judaism.  Steven Windmueller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome the comments of Rachel, Jonathan, and Richard to my article on a National Jewish Conversation. Indeed, each of them adds important dimensions to what should these conversations consist of and who ought to be included in such dialogues. Rachel offers the notion of &#8220;many conversations&#8221; both about the spiritual and the intellectual, while Jonathan speaks of &#8220;networks of communications&#8221; that need to take place at the grass roots level. Richard shares his perception that our traditional organizations need to ask different questions than they are currently posing. He sees, as I do, many innovative institutions already moving beyond the core community, creating alternative models of engagement. Indeed, as he also notes, this is an extraordinary moment to be in the mix as we enter upon a 21st century conversation on American Judaism.  Steven Windmueller</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Marker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Marker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from &lt;em&gt;Marker&#039;s Musings&lt;/em&gt;, posted with permission of the author: 

In this morning’s “eJewishPhilanthropy&quot;, a widely respected and much read collection of opinion pieces, there was a thought piece by Stephen Windmueller. He correctly identifies the profound and long-term changes underway in Jewish life today. And he correctly identifies that without some serious visioning and looking in the mirror, the community, as he defines it, may be coming to a crisis.

However, I believe that he is asking some of the right questions, but his solution is tautologically self-limiting. In it, he calls for the institutions of Jewish life to meet to converse. But in so doing, he overlooks a few key components of the era in which we now live:

• There have been conversations along the lines he mentioned occurring for several years. It is intriguing to look at which one’s have been fruitful and productive, and which ones haven’t. For but one example, Gary Rosenblatt has convened “conversations” for several years, purposely and proactively trying to bridge as many formal and informal boundaries as possible. These low-keyed, closed door sessions have led to many productive networks independent of organizational limitations. However, when some of the local and national Jewish organizations themselves have tried to convene such conferences, they have often bumped against organizational defensiveness or blindness. [E.g., I was recently contacted by the web developer of a very prominent Jewish organization asking my advice on how they should make their website more likely to attract younger donors. My response was that this was not a matter of technology; it was a matter of credibility; until that organization is perceived to actually incorporate the aspirations and styles of younger people, it could hardly expect that their website would attract younger donors.]
• Moreover, if the analysis of 21st Century life is correct, traditional organizational structures, based on their models of financial support and long term loyalty, are a very successful 20th Century model – in other words, yesterday’s news. When the question is how do we preserve ourselves, as opposed to how do we reinvent ourselves, the conversation is a non-starter.
• We already have the outlines of what the new models of institutional life will look like. I say outlines since we are only at the earliest stages of confronting the challenges of scale, funding, and impact, but the abundance of viable alternative models of Jewish life in the US and elsewhere are clear indicators. [Full disclosure: my service on the board of Bikkurim and as an informal advisor to many of the innovative groups has informed my perspective.]
• I believe that the most profound changes are those that take place outside the mainstream. Let them be the “risk capital” and the “test labs”. But also let them help formulate what a coherent response to 21st Century identity should look like. I have occasion to sometimes speak to the best of the organizational thinkers, and on other occasions with the best of the new. They are profoundly different conversations, with differing assumptions, vocabulary, and visions of the future. Are we better off encouraging a parallel universe or trying too hard to make square boxes and round holes align themselves?
• Is it so terrible if some institutions fail? Jewish history is marked by changes. The post WWII Jewish community would be unrecognizable to those who lived only 100 years earlier; that in turn would have been incomprehensible to those who lived only 100 years before that. We are constantly reinventing, reimagining, and relegating to footnote or lesser status institutions that were dominant in the past. It is not the death knell of American Jewry if the same thing happens now. [I am not trivializing the consequences on many levels.]

Does all of this obviate Steve’s heartfelt plea? No, of course not. But if what takes place is a collection of organizations wondering how to co-opt the best and brightest of the innovators, it will not achieve the re-visioning he envisions. Rather, what needs to take place is for the organizations to educate themselves first: to understand that the world has changed and it isn’t going back. Only then will a productive reinvention take place, modeled not on how to bring the outliers back but how to bring the &quot;in-liers&quot; out.

A few years ago, I suggested that those of us above a certain age are guests in this century. [It is a phrase that has been quoted quite a lot.] I profoundly believe that and have done everything I know to learn how to be an educated and sensitive guest and participant in a world radically different than the one which defined us in the last. When the history of this century is written, I suspect that what we will see is that it will not prove to be the demise of history’s largest and most successful Diaspora community, but a time when that community has simply redefined its categories, vocabulary, what identity is, and how that identity becomes manifest. It excites me to be here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from <em>Marker&#8217;s Musings</em>, posted with permission of the author: </p>
<p>In this morning’s “eJewishPhilanthropy&#8221;, a widely respected and much read collection of opinion pieces, there was a thought piece by Stephen Windmueller. He correctly identifies the profound and long-term changes underway in Jewish life today. And he correctly identifies that without some serious visioning and looking in the mirror, the community, as he defines it, may be coming to a crisis.</p>
<p>However, I believe that he is asking some of the right questions, but his solution is tautologically self-limiting. In it, he calls for the institutions of Jewish life to meet to converse. But in so doing, he overlooks a few key components of the era in which we now live:</p>
<p>• There have been conversations along the lines he mentioned occurring for several years. It is intriguing to look at which one’s have been fruitful and productive, and which ones haven’t. For but one example, Gary Rosenblatt has convened “conversations” for several years, purposely and proactively trying to bridge as many formal and informal boundaries as possible. These low-keyed, closed door sessions have led to many productive networks independent of organizational limitations. However, when some of the local and national Jewish organizations themselves have tried to convene such conferences, they have often bumped against organizational defensiveness or blindness. [E.g., I was recently contacted by the web developer of a very prominent Jewish organization asking my advice on how they should make their website more likely to attract younger donors. My response was that this was not a matter of technology; it was a matter of credibility; until that organization is perceived to actually incorporate the aspirations and styles of younger people, it could hardly expect that their website would attract younger donors.]<br />
• Moreover, if the analysis of 21st Century life is correct, traditional organizational structures, based on their models of financial support and long term loyalty, are a very successful 20th Century model – in other words, yesterday’s news. When the question is how do we preserve ourselves, as opposed to how do we reinvent ourselves, the conversation is a non-starter.<br />
• We already have the outlines of what the new models of institutional life will look like. I say outlines since we are only at the earliest stages of confronting the challenges of scale, funding, and impact, but the abundance of viable alternative models of Jewish life in the US and elsewhere are clear indicators. [Full disclosure: my service on the board of Bikkurim and as an informal advisor to many of the innovative groups has informed my perspective.]<br />
• I believe that the most profound changes are those that take place outside the mainstream. Let them be the “risk capital” and the “test labs”. But also let them help formulate what a coherent response to 21st Century identity should look like. I have occasion to sometimes speak to the best of the organizational thinkers, and on other occasions with the best of the new. They are profoundly different conversations, with differing assumptions, vocabulary, and visions of the future. Are we better off encouraging a parallel universe or trying too hard to make square boxes and round holes align themselves?<br />
• Is it so terrible if some institutions fail? Jewish history is marked by changes. The post WWII Jewish community would be unrecognizable to those who lived only 100 years earlier; that in turn would have been incomprehensible to those who lived only 100 years before that. We are constantly reinventing, reimagining, and relegating to footnote or lesser status institutions that were dominant in the past. It is not the death knell of American Jewry if the same thing happens now. [I am not trivializing the consequences on many levels.]</p>
<p>Does all of this obviate Steve’s heartfelt plea? No, of course not. But if what takes place is a collection of organizations wondering how to co-opt the best and brightest of the innovators, it will not achieve the re-visioning he envisions. Rather, what needs to take place is for the organizations to educate themselves first: to understand that the world has changed and it isn’t going back. Only then will a productive reinvention take place, modeled not on how to bring the outliers back but how to bring the &#8220;in-liers&#8221; out.</p>
<p>A few years ago, I suggested that those of us above a certain age are guests in this century. [It is a phrase that has been quoted quite a lot.] I profoundly believe that and have done everything I know to learn how to be an educated and sensitive guest and participant in a world radically different than the one which defined us in the last. When the history of this century is written, I suspect that what we will see is that it will not prove to be the demise of history’s largest and most successful Diaspora community, but a time when that community has simply redefined its categories, vocabulary, what identity is, and how that identity becomes manifest. It excites me to be here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Woocher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Woocher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rachel.  I think the time when large conferences of &quot;leaders&quot; could set directions for a diverse and dynamic community is past.  We are living in an increasingly &quot;open source&quot; world, and our focus should be on expanding participation in the many conversations and initiatives that are already shaping the Jewish present and future.  Large gatherings have their place, but Jewish vitality is more than ever the product of grass-roots activity and the networks of communication and connection that are emerging across the Jewish landscape.  It&#039;s a messy way to operate, perhaps less sastisfying in the short term than the &quot;agendas&quot; that emerge from large conferences.  But, it&#039;s the way real change gets done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rachel.  I think the time when large conferences of &#8220;leaders&#8221; could set directions for a diverse and dynamic community is past.  We are living in an increasingly &#8220;open source&#8221; world, and our focus should be on expanding participation in the many conversations and initiatives that are already shaping the Jewish present and future.  Large gatherings have their place, but Jewish vitality is more than ever the product of grass-roots activity and the networks of communication and connection that are emerging across the Jewish landscape.  It&#8217;s a messy way to operate, perhaps less sastisfying in the short term than the &#8220;agendas&#8221; that emerge from large conferences.  But, it&#8217;s the way real change gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Cowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there should be many such conversations, linked in some way as a meta-conversation.  They should not be limited to the same people who always come together.  They should obviously include women in proportion to our participation in Jewish life, activists at the organizational and communal level - those who are out in the field, not simply those who fund and lead them.  This meta-conversation should cover a wide range of topics - those that engage the future, those that build hope and commitment and don&#039;t simply cultivate fear and anxiety. They should be based on appreciative inquiry, and new formats for engaging large numbers of people in generating creative ideas.  They should engage matters of the spirit as well as the intellect.  And they should include the Jewish responsibility for engaging in addressing the most serious issues of the day - climate change, water, war and poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there should be many such conversations, linked in some way as a meta-conversation.  They should not be limited to the same people who always come together.  They should obviously include women in proportion to our participation in Jewish life, activists at the organizational and communal level &#8211; those who are out in the field, not simply those who fund and lead them.  This meta-conversation should cover a wide range of topics &#8211; those that engage the future, those that build hope and commitment and don&#8217;t simply cultivate fear and anxiety. They should be based on appreciative inquiry, and new formats for engaging large numbers of people in generating creative ideas.  They should engage matters of the spirit as well as the intellect.  And they should include the Jewish responsibility for engaging in addressing the most serious issues of the day &#8211; climate change, water, war and poverty.</p>
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